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This is the first
issue of the Finnish Mosin Nagant FAQ. More
items will be added over time as this is just a start. It
is hoped this will be helpful to all collectors. There
was an attempt to arrange these by topic but that
was a bit difficult as many of the questions can
cover a number of models. When this is updated
it will be mentioned on the forum boards as well
as on the main Mosin site - If you can not
find the answer here then make sure to check out
the Collectors Forum at www.gunboards.com as
it is without a doubt the premier Mosin Nagant forum
on the Net.
Did the Finns manufacture
their own receivers?
No the Finns used
captured as well as purchased Russian/Soviet receivers
to manufacture their versions of the Mosin Nagant. Most
of these were older M91 receivers but later in WW2
production you will encounter some M91/30 receivers.
Did the Finns re-number
their rifles and rifle parts?
Yes in many or even
most cases the Finns did indeed re-number Mosin Nagants
to match. It is very common to see re-stamped
or even lined out numbers on Finnish Mosin Nagant
rifles. This is correct and as the rifles should
be. It does not hurt the value of the rifle. One
can find re-numbered bolts, magazines (magazines
without numbers as well), and any number of Finnish
How many versions
of the Mosin Nagant did the Finns produce?
For general arms,
not including the very rare or sniper rifles, there
was the M91-24 Civil Guard's Rifle and carbine, the
M91 (1920's and also 1940's production), the M27
rifle and carbine, the Civil Guard M28 Rifle, the
Civil Guard M28-30 Rifle, and the M39 Service Rifle. There
are others but these are the versions collectors
will see on the market.
Did the Finns capture
all the Mosin Nagants they used in service either
as issue rifles or to make use of the receivers?
No. While the
Finns did take large numbers of Mosin Nagants in
the Finnish Civil War of 1918 as well as the Winter
War of 1939-1940, then Finns also purchased a great
number of rifles abroad in the 1920's. Most
of the Finnish stockpile of Mosin Nagants came from
these outside purchases.
Are Finnish Mosin Nagants more
accurate than the Russian-Soviet versions?
In very general terms yes the Finnish
rifles are more accurate. In fact it is safe
to say they are much more accurate as a whole. That
does not mean one can not locate a Russian-Soviet
rifle that can outshoot a Finnish made Mosin. The
Finns did take more time in fitting and manufacture
of their rifles than the Soviets. The Finns
were also dedicated to accuracy not just a mass production
What are good reference works
on the Finnish Mosin Nagants?
There are a number that come to
mind, with this site being one of them. We
have tried our best to provide some of the best Mosin
Nagant information that can be located anywhere. Also
Mosin Nagant Page of DanZ is quite good. While
it focuses on the Russian models, The Russian Mosin
Nagant Page is another great online resource. Other
fine works are: The Mosin Nagant Rifle, by Terence
Lapin, Rifles Of The White Death, by Doug Bowser,
Drei Linien Die Gewehre Mosin-Nagant, by Karl-Heinz
Wrobel, and without a doubt the best work on the
subject Sotilaskasiaseet Suomessa 1918-1991 Vol1-3-
from Markku Palokangas: Vammalan Kirijapaino Oy. Most
of these books and information on how to buy such
books can be located on the site as can the links
to the mentioned websites.
Why did the Finns choose the
It comes down to numbers and a
new cash poor nation. The Finns captured massive
amounts of Mosin Nagant rifles in the Finnish Civil
War of 1918. As they were a new nation in dire
need to put weapons in their army's hands, the Mosin
Nagant was the clear answer to the Finns. The
Finns did not have to spend enormous amounts of money
to acquire rifles from outside sources as they had
the rifles on hands. In the 1920's the Finns
made great efforts to have the Mosin Nagant become
the standard arm in Finland. They did so by
trading or selling many of the non Mosin Nagants
still in Finland. These included a number of
rifles with Japanese rifles being sold and traded
in mass to acquire more Mosin Nagants. It was
also seen as an advantage for the Finns to be armed
with a rifle that could use the ammunition of their
most likely enemy. The greatest threat to Finland
for years, and years to come, was Russia - The Soviet
Union, so using Russian ammo worked out well for
Why are the Finns so collectable?
This answer could be an entire
article, so I will be as brief as I can. One
factor is the low production numbers. The Finnish
made Mosin Nagants were not produced on the scale
of many battle rifles in WW2. One can compare
21 million Soviet M91-30's to only 130,000 (or so)
Finnish M39 rifles to get a pretty clear picture
of the number difference. All the Finnish Mosin
Nagants are uncommon and some are downright rare. Also
Finland has a great and interesting history behind
it. A small nation of tough Finns stood up
to the largest army in the world and gave much better
than it took. The history is compelling and
certainly is a factor in collecting. Another
key factor is the simple fact that the Finnish made
Mosin Nagants are well made and accurate rifles. They
can hold their own in accuracy against any military
arm made in their time frame. The old notion
that cheap prices are why Finns are collectable is
false, as the Finnish market is no longer a cheap
one. This further goes to prove just how good
the rifles themselves are. They have an appeal
that is much greater than cheap prices.
What is the most collectable
Finnish Mosin Nagant?
You can ask this of five different
Finnish collectors and might get five different answers. Really
any Finnish Mosin Nagant is a collectable arm but
some are more collectable than others. I do
think it is safe to say any of the carbines and the
snipers rank at the top of most lists. There
are a number of experimental versions that were made
as well but the chances of finding them are next
to none. The fact is that the carbines
and snipers are about as rare as one can get but
they do surface from time to time. The costs
of such an item is indeed reflected by just how uncommon
they are. For most "common" collectors
the early Finns, like the M91-24, the 1920's made
M91's, the M27's, M28's, and M28-30's are great finds
and worthy to be called rare collector's items.
How much is my Finnish Mosin
Talk about the hardest question
one can ask.....This really depends on so many factors
that any statement on price is really nothing more
than a guess or a price range. There are rifles
in my collection that I have bought for $50 but I
have seen like rifles sell for over $300. One
never knows as so much goes into price. Rarity
makes price is a pretty simple rule; however, there
are many cases when price is set by other standards. What
is the rifle worth? It is worth what someone
will pay for it.
Did my rifle see combat?
This is impossible to answer. It
can be stated that the Finns were in dire need of
weapons and the chances are good that your M27, M28,
M28-30, older M91, and many M39's did see combat. The
chances are greater with Finnish rifles than some
others due to lower production numbers, need of weapons,
and the size of the Finnish forces. Still there
is no way to know if your rifle served on the front
lines or was in rear action issued to the guard at
Why are so many Finns is such
Post war reworks. The Mosin
Nagants served in Finland quite a long time and many
of these rifles were still in Finnish stockpiles
in the 1990's. As such most of the rifles have
been reworked at least once in their lifetime and
in many cases the rifles have been reworked a number
of times. Also with some of these rifles, such
as some wartime M91's and the Tikka manufactured
M91-30's, they saw little to no issue. As such
they are really in "like new" condition.
Why is there such conflicting
information on these rifles?
This is another tough one to answer. One
factor is that much of the early information on these
rifles was incorrect. A number of gun books
misidentify Finnish Mosin Nagants or have incorrect
production info. Even some of the fine reference
books on these rifles have errors, as do webpages
and other resources. The simple fact is that
most of the information on these rifles is in Finnish,
which is not widely read or spoken in the US. As
such the information is lacking here in some regards. Also
Finnish is a tough language and it is very easy to
make translation mistakes. Also there is the
simple fact the Finns broke patterns and did things
that really are hard to understand. As this
is the case a lot of Finnish collecting is from observation
and personal "feelings". No Mosin
Nagant "expert" is above being corrected
and very few think the information is written in
stone. Even the authors and collectors on this
site make mistakes and rethink issues. The
information on these rifles is still evolving and
growing. BTW: WE MAKE MISTAKES AS WELL (smile) There
are also those, mainly on the Internet, that are
so called "acting experts". The only
problem is while they sound like they know what they
are talking about in many cases their information
is dubious at best. This is indeed so bad there
are entire websites dedicated to this sort of character.
What is an SA mark?
This is the Finnish Army property
marking, standing for Suomen Armeija. This
is stamped on most Finnish issued rifles.
What does SY mean? What
does SK.Y mean?
These are markings of the Finnish
Civil Guard. The SY is for Suojeluskuntian
Ylieskunta and the SK.Y is the later version of this
What was the most
common Finnish rifle issued in the Winter War?
The Continuation War?
The M91 rifle was
by far the most common rifle seen. Either in
standard Russian form or in the Finnish produced
models. Later in WW2 one did start to see more
and more M39's in the field but their numbers never
surpassed the M91.
What are the chances of finding
a M27 Carbine?
Very slim. They do pop up
from time to time but when they do the costs are
high. One should still always keep their hopes up
as I was able to locate one this year (2002). The
price for the item was high but it is the jewel of
What types of troops were carbines
Cavalry, messenger, and such troops
were issued the Finnish carbines. M27 carbines were
issued to: URR, HRR, Cavalry NCO School (RvAUK),
Signal Squadron (VEsk) and Mounted Artillery Battery
(RatsPtri) all parts of the Cavalry Brigade. It
is interesting to note that the horse artillery batteries
were no longer a part of the Cavalry Brigade but
lumped into field artillery by the time of the Winter
War. This change had to happen sometime between
1935-39 but it is not clear just when this occured.
Did the Swiss firm SIG make
Mosin Nagants for Finland? How about the Germans?
No. The Swiss firm Schweiz
Industrie Gessellschaft, Neuhausen (SIG) manufactured
barrels the Finns used on the M91-24 Civil Guard
Rifle. No the Germans did not make Mosin Nagants
for Finland either. There were German firms
that supplied barrels to Finland for the M91-24 rifle. These
are marked Bohler-Stahl. In both cases the
rifles themselves were manufactured and assembled
in Finland. This mistake of Swiss and German
manufacture is in quite a bit of older reference
works on Mosin Nagants.
Why are some rifles not SA marked?
This is hard to answer as it can
be for any number of reasons. It could be as
simple as the rifle being somehow missed during the
stamping process. It is not uncommon to see
rifles that do not bear SA markings but are still
Finnish issued arms.
Why are Civil Guard Rifles also
The Finnish Civil Guard was abolished
under the treaty that ended the Continuation War
with the Soviet Union. As such all Civil Guard
rifles were turned over to Finnish Army stocks. It
is also possible some of these rifles went into Army
hands in 1941-44 and were so marked. A great
many of the Finnish Civil Guard members became
a part of the Finnish Army in this time frame, and
their weapons in many cases went with them.
Did the Finns make rifle parts?
Yes the Finns did make rifle parts. These
range from sights to bolt parts and about everything
in between, including magazine parts.
Is it common to see Russian-Soviet
parts mixed in with Finnish made Mosin Nagants?
Yes this is very common to see. In
most cases the Finns used every Russian part they
could make use of. It is not uncommon to see
a large mix of parts in a Finnish rifle. This
is very common in the bolts as a number of maker
stamps can be located on the same bolt. In
some regard the Finnish Mosin Nagants are parts rifles,
but they are the ultimate in parts rifles. The
Finns were masters at taking what they had an improving
Did other troops use the Mosin
Nagant in Finland and are these marked in a certain
Yes. A number of nations
sent volunteers to Finland in the Finnish Civil War,
the Winter War, and the Continuation War. These
included but were are not limited to Swedes, Danes,
Estonians (3,000-5,000 in WW2), and even Americans. No
the rifles used by these forces are not marked in
a certain manner.
What does INT/32
While this marking
does not appear on rifles it can appear on leather
goods, uniforms and other equipment. INT/32 would
mean the item was manufactured in 1932 and accepted
for use in that year. INT/43 would be made in 1943
and accepted for military use in that year. The INT
is an abbreviation of this acceptance.
What is the number
seen following a large stylized S?
In most cases this
is a Finnish Civil Guard district number. The
Civil Guard marked these rifles as they were issued
to individual districts in Finland. It is not
uncommon to see several of these numbers crossed
out then new numbers re-stamped. This just
means the rifle was issued to another district over
time. Please see the Finnish section of the
site for more information on this issue.
Is there a map that shows Civil
Yes but none online that I know
of. I am working on this but keep running into
copyright problems. If someone out there has
some talent at drawing maps, contact me and we can
get this done ourselves. It would be a great
When was the Civil Guard disbanded?
In 1944 the Civil Guard was disbanded
by agreement between Finland and the Soviet Union. The
peace treaty was signed in Paris (1947).
Did the Finns produce their
own stripper clips or just use Russian ones?
The Finns did manufacture their
own clips as well as using Russian clips.
What is the A, B, and C that
appears on early Tikka M91 barrels?
These are bore diameters. See
the Finnish section, M91 article , for more info.
Are Finnish bore diameters the
same in all rifles?
No. These can range from
model to model and in fact can range from rifle to
rifle. Finnish bore diameters have a much larger
range than most military arms. The only real
way to tell your bore diameter is to slug the barrel.
What is the stock
cartouche that looks like crossed swords, wagon
wheels, or crossed cannons that have a letter that
This is a Finnish
stock makers marking. These are crossed cannons
and there are a number of variations one can encounter
as there were many makers of these stocks.
My post war stock has no finish
to the wood. Is that common?
Yes this is rather common to see
on the post war stocks. They have either no
finish or next to no finish on the wood. In
many regards they look untreated.
What is the filled in hole located
on the right buttstock of Finnish rifles?
In most cases this is where there
was once a unit id disc. These discs were dropped
on most rifles around the time of the Winter War,
as rifles that were captured gave too much information
to the enemy. Some disks did survive but it
is not common to locate rifles that still have these
in place. It is most common to see such discs
in M27 rifles. One might also see such a filled
hole in areas of the stock where that could not have
had a stock disc. In most cases this is a Finnish
repair of stock damage. The repair is very
common and almost looks like dark wood putty.
Did the Finns use stock discs
Yes they did but again the use
was not common. War era discs will be brass
in look and color while the post war discs look like
aluminum. In many cases these post war discs
are artillery units the most common being 2.PSTO
KAR PR. which is the 2nd Karelian Artillery Brigade
these discs as far as I know being seen only on M39's. I
have never seen a wartime M39 stock disc as it seems
the Finns banned the use of these discs before M39
production got underway as a security measure. What
is not known is why the practice was once again undertaken
What type of wood is used in
Birch wood is the common Finnish
wood used. You can find other wood types as
many Finnish stocks were made from older Russian
and even US Mosin Nagant stocks.
Why did the Finns use sling
Simply the Finns felt this was
a better way to secure a sling to the rifle. It
is much less likely to loose the swivel that it was
to loose the leather "dog-collar" used
on most Russian-Soviet Mosin Nagants.
Why are there two piece stocks
in the first place?
It began as a method of replacing
the thin forward section of the stock on m/27's so
that a heavier thicker forend could be affixes. It
was carried onto other models as a way of reusing
older rear sections of stocks. It also seems
the Finns went to the two piece stock at least partly
to prevent warping in temperature changes. Finland
is a nation that has a number of different regions. In
the southern part of Finland it can be warm and humid
at times (very much so) while in other areas of Finland
it can be quite cold. There can indeed be a
range so the Finns needed a design that could perform
no matter the weather or conditions.
Are stock carving such as initials
common in these rifles?
It is hard to say these are common
but they are by no means uncommon. Many Finnish
Mosin Nagants will have AK, VK, or like initials
carved into the stocks. It is clear this was
done by soldiers but the meaning is unknown. There
are some patterns that seem to occur, such as the
AK mentioned above, but actual meaning is unknown. It
is interesting many Finns seem to think this was
done only in Finnish Army service not by those in
the Civil Guard. The reasoning is that in most
cases those in the Civil Guard paid for their own
rifle, so would not have done this to the stock.
Why is my M91-24 in a WW2 era
two piece M91 stock?
When the M91-24 was turned over
to the Finnish Army, they were lumped into M91 numbers. As
such broken stocks or those that were worn would
have been replaced with M91 stocks. These stocks
would be widened a bit to handle the larger diameter
or heavy M91-24 barrel. This could have happened
wartime or postwar.
Why is my M27 in a M28-30 stock? Why
is my 28-30 in a M27 stock? And like questions.
As all these rifles went into Army
service you can find mix and matched stocks from
time to time. It is hard to state just when
this was done. Most of this was more than likely
done in the post war years but it is never safe to
make such a blanket statement. It is possible
that the one in your collection was done at the height
of the war but it is safe to say this was not the
case most of the time. Could this be called
wartime correct? Yes it could but again it is not
What are AV2 and AV3?
AV2 is the Finnish arms depot at
Viipuri and AV3 is the Finnish arms depot at Kupio.
Why are Finnish bayonets so
Rarity. Finnish bayonets
were never made in large numbers and the issue losses
of these bayonets cut the low production numbers
even more. The M39 SKY bayonet is one of the
most uncommon bayonets around and many times is worth
2-3 times what the rifle is worth.
Why did the Finns prefer the
blade front sight to the Russian globe sight that
was standard on the M91-30?
Really there are two reasons that
leap out. The first is that the blade sight
is much easier to see and use in the snow. Also
the blade sight will not pick up debris in the same
manner as the globe sight. As Finland is a
nation that can have a lot of snow and also is nation
with a number of trees, one can see why this
sight was more suited for issue.
What is "Finnish Matching"?
Another US coined term. This
refers to the bolt and the barrel matching, so the
rifle is "Finnish Matching". It is
not uncommon to have magazines that are not numbered
so this is not counted against the rifle in terms
of matching. It is not a bad term but is confusing
What is the D stamping
seen on Finnish barrels?
This simply means
the rifle is chambered to handle the Soviet-Finnish
D round, which was the standard round of the WW2
If the rifle is
not D stamped, is the rifle safe to fire using
standard surplus ammo?
With M39 and WW2 M91
production the D chambering was standard, so many
of these rifles will not have the D marking. That
is due to the fact it was the standard so there was
no need to mark such rifles. The only rifles
that might cause a worry for lack of the D stamping
would be the M91-24 and the M28-30 rifles. To
be safe it is always a good idea to have the rifle
checked by a gunsmith if there are any questions. Better
to be safe than sorry.
Why is my M28 not dated?
The dates on the M28's does not
appear on top of the barrel shank, as in most cases
the date can be located under the barrel. To
see the date you have to take the rifle from the
Do all M28-30's have the added
sleeve near the front band?
No not all but this was standard
improvement. Some rifles such as the earliest versions
did not have the aluminum sleeve added. Some of the
later production, the sleeve was either removed or
damaged and not replaced. It should be standard on
all m/28-30 from about 1935-1940.
Are all M28-30's SKY dated in
the same manner?
No. First year production
rifles, 1933, are not dated on the outer barrel shank.
Are Finnish Sniper Rifles Rare?
Yes Finnish sniper rifles are some
of the most uncommon military rifles in the world. For
more information see the Sniper Section of this site
and the works of Vic Thomas.
When did the Finns add the sling
swivels to the M91 rifle?
This was an improvement seen in
mass in the 1940-43 production M91's at Tikka and
What sling is correct on my
This one will be a work in progress. Once
we find the time we will try and do a large sling
and accessories section on the site. At this
point we have just not found the time to do so.
When did the Finns start to
According to Markku Palokangas,
the world's leading expert on Finnish weapons, the
commonly seen hang tags did not come to pass until
Are all Finnish Mosin Nagants
shimmed to improve accuracy?
No. While it is common to
see both M39's and M91's with stock shims this is
by no means in every such rifle. These stock
shims were also done in the post war period to improve
accuracy. One can find shims in any number
of Mosin Nagant models but it does seem most common
in M39's and M91's. The shims can be pre-war,
wartime, or post war.
What does RV mean?
In simple terms when one sees RV
used in terms of arms and arms related items, it
means cavalry or mounted troops. While not
the exact definition this is a safe way to look at
What types of ammo pouches were
used with the Finnish Mosin Nagants?
There were a wide range of pouches
used with different rifles. Over time we will
try and put this on the site in detail. Some
of the more common pouches one will encounter are
older German WW1 pouches that bear SA , SY, or SKY
What does AZF mean?
This is a proof marking that appears
on rifles captured by the Austrians then later sold
to the Finns. This marking appears on barrel
shanks in most cases. OWEG is also an Austrian marking. ARZ
is a German WW1 capture marking.
What is DEUTSCHES REICH?
A German WW1 capture marking. This
is seen on stocks in most cases as a cartouche. The
rifles were sold to the Finns.
What is a "Lotta Rifle"?
This is a common Finnish term for
the M91-24 rifle. The money raised to produce
these rifles came in part from the Lotta Svard, the
women's auxiliary of the Civil Guard. Please
see the M91-24 article for more information.
Were there different cleaning
rods used on the same model?
Yes. In or around 1940 the
Finns went to a new standard rod that is based on
the rod seen in the M39 rifles. This rod has
a flat head not the rounded head seen in most Mosin
Nagants. This became the new standard and all
new production rods are based on this model. The
rods were made in the same style and just cut to
different lengths. As such one can see a "M39" style
rod in a M27, M28-30, or like early rifles. This
standard was also used on the new production M91's
made during the war as well as the M91-30 Tikka rifles. Still
one can encounter older rod styles in later rifles. The
Finns wasted nothing so used what they had on hand.
What is a "ski-bicycle" M27?
This again is a term created here
in the USA to describe a version of the M27 that
has a version of sling swivels not seen on other
versions of the M27. These were issued to ski
and bike troops in most cases, hence the name that
has come about. This is not a Finnish term. Please
see the Finnish M27 section for more information.
Did the Finns blue the Mosin
Yes it does seem this happened
but only rarely. It is not known just when
this was done (or why) but it is clear that
at some point it did. Still this is a rare
item to encounter. The rifles can be Finnish
or Russian in origin. At times one will see
a new serial number on the rifles with blued bolts
that start in 00-0 and it is thought this might be
an armor's gun. This is a guess at this point
and can not be backed up.
What is a "sneak rifle"?
A "sneak rifle" is a
term that has become popular here in the USA to describe
the later made (1960's-1970's) dated M39 rifles. The
term is not really correct as it came into being
on incorrect information based on a believed ban
on SAKO's production of military rifles. The
basis for this term is entirely incorrect but has
become accepted by some. Many collectors will
not use this term and do not like this term, and
I happen to be one of them.
What is a "sea-salvaged" Mosin
This is another term that has become
popular here in the US but really has a clouded meaning. While
I am not sure how the term was started, the term
is used to described Mosin Nagants that have been
pitted and refinished. It is not terribly uncommon
to locate a Finish Mosin Nagant that has 100% blue
but the receiver and or barrel has old pitting under
this blue. The "rumor" was these
were rifles recovered from sunken ships on the bottom
of the Gulf Of Finland (or at least that is how I
understand this rumor). This term is accepted
like the "sneak" but really is not based
in fact. It simply means a rifle that shows
old pitting. While not a great term to use,
there is it. At least after reading this you
will know what someone might be talking about. Too
be honest I think the term was first used as it sounds
better on a rifle for sale than saying "The
rifle is pitted".
Is one maker of the M39 better
Not really. All Finnish M39's
are fine rifles regardless of maker. A SAKO, VKT,
and the "B" M39's will all be well made
and accurate. One manufacture will not outshine
the other in quality or accuracy. The difference
in price is two-fold. One is rarity as the
more uncommon the maker the higher the price. The
other difference is name recognition. In many
cases SAKO's do draw a higher price as people have
heard the name SAKO before and equate quality to
the name. The fact is that SAKO are the most
common of all the M39's but the name can (and does)
effect price. That is the name making the market
not the facts.
The buttplate on my M39 does
not seem to fit the stock?
This is also common. The
buttplates were not fitted as well as they could
have been on some M39 rifles. While on the
subject it is very rare to have a buttplate number
match a rifle number.
Why does my M39 have two types
of sling swivels?
This was done as the M39 was to
be a general service rifle issued to all troops. This
included cavalry, ski, and bike troop (normally the
troops associated with the side sling swivels) as
well as infantry troops (normally associated with
the standard swivels). By using both types
the rifle was easy for all such troops to use.
Did VKT build their M39's from
start to finish?
No. The only factory that
build all the components and parts to the rifles,
then assembled them in whole, was SAKO.
With such low production numbers,
why does it seem there are so many B barreled M39's
This is a two part answer: Part
one is that M39 B production was not as low as many
believed or have stated Secondly the Finns
cut down many M91 B barreled rifles to M39 specs
post war. In fact it appears great numbers
of these rifles were so altered. As such these
numbers , which are unknown, add to the original
production numbers. The M39 B is not a common
rifle but not as rare as some might think. The
more uncommon of the B's are the M91's as so many
were indeed altered postwar to M39's. I can
personally attest to seeing HUGE numbers of B M39's
at importers and distributors warehouses.
Did the Finns grind off the
Imperial Russian Eagles off M91 receivers?
Yes. This was a common practice
not only by the Finns but also by the Soviets and
other nations. When the Tsar fell there were
not many in Europe that cried over his loss of power. He
had made a number of enemies and many were glad to
see him go. They were not all that happy to
see the Communists in power but few missed the Tsar.
If the Finns did grind these
markings, why is it not uncommon to still see the
eagle marking on Finnish rifles?
This comes down simply to time
and the need not to waste effort. It is very
rare to see these markings on an early Finn. Be
that an early M91, M91-24, a M27, M28, or M28-30. You
do start to see this marking still intact on wartime
production M39's, M91's, and M91/30's. Simply
put the Finns were producing rifles during a war,
and did not feel that taking the time to remove these
older markings was that important.
Why is my barrel tinted a plum
This has been debated many times
and a number of theories have been put forth. It
was once stated this color was due to a high nickel
content in the B barrels supplied to the Finns by
Belgium. This is not the case as this color
can appear in a number of rifles regards less of
manufacture or source of the barrel steel. It
is now believed this color is due to the bluing process
the Finns undertook sometime post war. Personally
I believe this to be the case as I have never seen
this color on earlier Finns such as the M27, M28,
or M28-30 but it is not uncommon to see this color
on M91's, M91-30's, and M39 rifles. As the
M91, M91-30's, and M39's were not released from the
Finnish stockpiles until much later than most of
the earlier rifles, it appears this post war blue
theory holds water. As the M27's and like rifles
were not in Finland when the work was done, they
do not have this color to them. This color
can and does appear on every manufacture of Finnish
rifle, from Tikka, to SAKO, to VKT, and including
the B barreled M39 and M91 rifles. The color also
appears on rifle parts such as rear sights and other